"… We should reject self-serving arguments (that)
seek to classify terrorism according to its root causes and therefore
justify (a) terrorist action somewhere while condemning it elsewhere.
Those that advance these arguments should explain what the root causes
of the brutal acts of September 11 were…We in India know from our
own bitter experience that terrorists develop global networks driven
by religious extremism… [Such terrorist operations] are supported
by drug trafficking, money laundering and arms smuggling..."
-- Atal Behari Vajpayee, Prime Minister, India, November 10, 2001
"… You understand, as elected representatives of
the people, that public opinion seeks action from its elected representatives
when such incidents occur... We have no desire to overload the agenda
of the international coalition against terrorism. But at the same
time, we need to ensure that we do not tamely accept terrorist acts
against us from across the borders… Killing of innocent civilians
and destruction of property can only be called terrorism, whatever
the justification provided… Every such manifestation has to be dealt
with equally firmly... Unless and until we develop this integrated
and inclusive approach to this scourge, no democratic, pluralist society
can remain unthreatened by terrorism. We will remain strongly with
the American people in this endeavour… `We hope Pakistan can play
a constructive role in this [political reconciliation and economic
reconstruction of Afghanistan.]. If indeed it has made the correct
strategic choice to change, it would be a major advance towards peace
in the region…'"[The response of India to the September 11 attacks
and the subsequent Anthrax scare] was not motivated by tactical or
foreign policy considerations. It was spontaneous. It emanated from
our fellow feeling for you and from the pain of our own experience
from terrorism… Terrorists will not succeed in destroying America's
rich tradition of pluralism, tolerance and accommodation… "
-- Atal Behari Vajpayee, Prime Minister, India, November 8, 2001
"… September 11 made them (the United States) see
what we have been trying to make them see…[Because of the dynamics
of the events of September 11] it will become difficult for any country
to adopt terrorism as a state policy for achieving political ends
against a neighbour…''
-- L K Advani, Home Minister, India, November 7, 2001
"… On one side Pakistan is a close ally of America
and on the other Islamabad openly sponsors terrorism in India. How
can both run concurrently, I fail to understand…"
-- Farooq Abdullah, Chief Minister, Jammu and Kashmir, October
21, 2001
"[The September 11 attacks
are a] turning point in world history… For many years now, we in India
have been the targets of a proxy war carried out in the form of cross-border
terrorism. September 11, however, was much more than cross-border
terrorism; it was cross-continental terrorism... The campaign of hate,
intolerance and violence propagated by the al-Qaeda network has simply
no parallel in modern world history. Therefore, the new manifestation
of international terrorism is a challenge to human civilization itself…
What is at work behind Al-Qaeda and similar terrorist organisations
is a dangerous mindset that seeks to fundamentally redefine the premises
and principles of the present world order. It challenges not only
the sovereignty of individual nations, but also the universally cherished
concepts like secularism, pluralism and individual freedom… Under
international law, it is legitimate if anyone attacks you, you have
the right to pursue… we are not aiming at terrorists training camps
in Pakistan- occupied Kashmir at this point of time... We are looking
forward to this global battle against terrorism and we want to make
it a success … In this fight, Pakistan being on our side in the battle
against terrorism is an advantage in the international effort… [But,
the United States must ensure that Pakistan as a member of its coalition
against terrorism does not provide haven to militants who target India]
… It is the very same ISI [which had backed the Taliban] that has
also been the planner, instigator and supporter of terrorism in Jammu
and Kashmir and in other parts of India… "Countries must ensure that
those who are part of the war on terrorism are themselves not guilty
of providing a safe haven to terrorists, hijackers and organizers
of terrorist camps…
-- L K Advani, Home Minister, India, October 19,
2001
Transcript of Joint Press Conference by
External Affairs Minister Shri Jaswant Singh
and the US Secretary of State Mr. Colin Powell
October 17, 2001 - New Delhi
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Press,
Good Afternoon. It is my distinct pleasure that we have my friend
Secretary of State to meet all of you. I had the occasion to meet
him very recently in Washington on the 2nd of October and I am delighted
to have been able to play host to him since yesterday. He leaves shortly
for Shanghai.
As the Prime Minister informed the Secretary of State,
we are not treating this visit by him as a visit of the Secretary
of State of the United States of America, as we do of a full formal
visit to India. I had a very cordial, very frank and, a very fruitful
discussion with the Secretary of State yesterday where we spent just
an hour and a half discussing issues together. We had a pleasant supper
together and then we covered the entire range of issues bilateral
to India-United States of America; regional as also global issues,
and of course regional aspects covering the latest developments in
Afghanistan, particularly, both September 11, and thereafter October
1st came up for a considerable extent of mutual discussion.
I do want to repeat what the Prime Minister had said
in his very last address to the Joint Session of the US Congress that
India and the United States of America being natural allies, I treat
my friend Colin’s visit as a part of the same demonstration.
We continue to hold that September 11 was an assault
on freedom, on civilisation, on democracy. India’s stand against terrorism
not simply starting from September 11even before that, has been unequivocal.
We stand shoulder to shoulder with the international community and
the United States of America in our battle against this global menace.
It is my pleasure, ladies and gentlemen, to now request my friend
and guest the Secretary of State to share his thoughts with us.
MR. COLIN POWELL: Thank you very much, Mr. Minister,
for your warm welcome and for your friendship as well. It means a
great deal to me. I thank you and all other your colleagues, and especially
the Prime Minister for the courtesies extended to me in this all too
brief visit. I look forward to returning in some future time and spending
much more time here in India.
As you have noted, we are natural allies - two great
democracies who believe in a common set of values that have served
both our nations well. President Bush had made it absolutely clear
that transforming the relationship with India and to put it on a higher
plane is one of his priorities. I found that this view is entirely
shared by Prime Minister Vajpayee and his colleagues as well. The
United States and India have a responsibility, as the world’s largest
multi-ethnic democracies, to work in close partnership with each other.
The prospects have never been brighter for cooperation across a whole
range of issues. We have discussed all of these issues in the past
dozen or so hours. President Bush asked me to come here to discuss
the global coalition against terrorism on how the United States and
India can continue their efforts over the long haul.
As an aside I might mention here now that we know
the Prime Minister will be coming to the United States for the United
Nations General Assembly meeting in early November, and President
Bush has extended an invitation to the Prime Minister to come to Washington
on the 9th of November for a working visit. Both the President and
we look forward to receiving the Prime Minister in Washington on the
9th of November. I am also pleased that, of course, that invitation
has been accepted. I can assure you will be warmly welcomed Mr. Minister.
President Bush also asked me to convey his personal
thanks to the Prime Minister for the support we have already received
from India and especially Foreign Minister Singh who has been in the
forefront of developing and presenting those support offers to us
over the past month. We have stood shoulder to shoulder in this fight
against terrorism. Both the United States and India were quick to
realise that the attacks of September 11th were attacks on the whole
world. Citizens of some eighty countries were among the victims including
many Indian citizens who remained among the missing. Our hearts go
out to the families here in India of those who were lost. Our heartfelt
thanks to the people of India for the outpouring of sympathy we have
received for our own losses in the attacks.
I want to make it clear that our focus in Afghanistan
now is eradicating Al Qaeda network and the terrorist use of Afghanistan
as a safe haven, to stop the invasion of Afghanistan that has taken
place as a result of the presence of Al Qaeda. We will achieve that
goal. President Bush and the international coalition is determined.
We will persist and we will prevail. Only after the terrorists are
gone can there be a broad-based Government in Afghanistan that represents
all elements of Afghan society, brings an end to fighting, lives in
harmony with its neighbours in the neighbourhood that coexist, begins
the task of reconstruction, and welcomes the refugees back home.
My colleagues here pointed out correctly that the
problem of terrorism is not only limited to Afghanistan. I assure
them that our efforts are directed against all terrorism. The United
States and India are united against terrorism and that includes the
terrorism that has been directed against India as well. Even before
the September 11th attacks, the United States and India were cooperating
extensively against terrorism. We established a Counter-Terrorism
Joint Working Group last January, for example. Now our cooperation
is even more intense. Today, Home Minister Advani and I signed a Mutual
Legal Assistance Treaty that will enhance our fight against crime.
Clearly, a major focus of my trip has been on ways
the United States and India can work together in advancing the international
coalition against terrorism. My talks with the Prime Minister and
the Foreign Minister and other officials covered many other important
issues as well. We agreed on the far-reaching importance of the new
Indo-US relationship which is anchored by the commitment of our leaders
and by the friendship of our peoples. I am confident that our relations,
already improving substantially, are becoming and will become even
stronger.
President Bush’s waiver of Glenn Amendment sanctions
allows the United States and India to move forward with broader cooperation
between the two sides. During the course of my visit, I had occasion
to discuss President Bush’s new strategic framework and I briefed
the Prime Minister on our continuing exchanges with Russia on this
very very vital subject. We discussed how to promote stability on
the subcontinent in my talks both here and in Pakistan. I request
the leaders of both the nations to continue their dialogue and take
steps to reduce tension between them. I leave today for the APEC Ministerial,
confident that the United States and India stand together against
the scourge of international terrorism, strengthened by our shared
democratic values, and ready as never before to work together for
freedom, prosperity, and security in the region and in the world.
Finally, once again my good friend, I thank you for the warm hospitality
you have extended to me. Thank you Mr. Minister.
MS. NIRUPAMA RAO: Ladies and Gentlemen, the Secretary
of State and the External Affairs Minister will now take questions.
We will have three questions from each side. We will begin with the
first question from the Indian side and follow that sequence with
the American side asking the second question.
Please indicate to whom you are addressing the question
and identify yourself while asking the question.
QUESTION (MR. ASHOK SHARMA, AP): Sir, we wonder how
can Pakistan be a part of the international effort to combat terrorism.
Pakistan has promoted terrorism in Afghanistan and in Kashmir. It
still maintains diplomatic ties with the Taliban. Should not India
be attacking Pakistan going by the logic that the United States is
attacking Afghanistan?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I presume that question is addressed
to me.
MR. COLIN POWELL: You can take it. I would not want
to be inhospitable. If you wish, its all yours.
I think Pakistan has made it clear in recent weeks
that they recognise the nature of the Taliban regime, and are working
with us to fight against Al Qaeda. They are working with us to see
what kind of a Government can be put together in the post-Taliban
regime. We deplore terrorism wherever it exists, whether it is the
kind of terrorism we saw on the 11th of September, or the kind of
terrorism that we saw on the 1st of October in Srinagar. We believe
that all nations who are trying to move forward in a 21st century
that I think will be shaped more and more by democracy and the values
of individual liberty and freedom, can join in this coalition. We
welcome all those who are committed to those principles and committed
against terrorism.
QUESTION (MR. GEORGE GEDDA, AP): Mr. Secretary, you
said yesterday in Pakistan that Kashmir is a central issue between
India and Pakistan. You also said the aspirations of the Kashmiri
people must be respected. This caused some unease here in India. Do
you have any comment please?
MR. COLIN POWELL: Yes. I didn’t say ‘a central’.
If you look at it carefully, I said ‘central’ in the sense that I
believe it is an important issue, and to suggest that it isn’t, wouldn’t
have been accurate. But it is more important to look at the rest of
my statement where I said that we should move forward on the basis
of dialogue, on the basis of efforts to reduce tension, to avoid violence,
and with respect to human rights. I think that is a sound statement.
The issue of Kashmir is one that has to be resolved
between India and Pakistan. The United States is a friend of both
of those nations. To the extent that both nations can find our efforts
to be helpful in some way or the other, we will be willing to be helpful.
I think it is more important to focus on the rest of my statement
than on that particular word, which has somehow had an article slipped
in front of it while I wasn’t looking.
QUESTION (MR. ANIL NARENDRA, VIR ARJUN): Osama-bin-Laden
in an interview to Al Jazeera TV claimed that the Islamic world had
helped Pakistan build the nuclear bomb and as such it is an Islamic
bomb, and can be used by them as and when they choose. Your comments
please.
MR. COLIN POWELL: Nonsense. Osama-bin-Laden is not
a representative of Islam. He is a terrorist; he is a murderer. He
has murdered innocent Indians, innocent Americans, innocent Pakistanis,
innocent people from all over the world. He should not in any way
be elevated to the status of a leader who believes in any faith. He
believes only in power. He has done nothing to help the people who
are suffering in the world. All he has done is, he has brought more
evil into the world, and death and destruction to individual citizens.
There can be no linkage between what he might be doing and what any
other nation may be doing. I just reject that as nonsense.
QUESTION (MR. PATRICK TYLER, NEW YORK TIMES): Mr.
Secretary, a couple of summers ago the Central Intelligence Agency
was reported to suggest that the America’s plans to go forward with
the National Missile Defence would incite China to expand its nuclear
arsenal, and that in turn will incite India and Pakistan to an arms
race in South Asia. Do you personally agree with that assessment?
You said you discussed the strategic issues today. How did it come
up today?
MR. COLIN POWELL: No, I don’t agree with that assessment.
I think the kind of missile defence that we are planning on is a very
limited missile defence. I think once people come to understand the
kind of reductions we are going to make in our strategic offensive
weapons - significant reductions, to much much lower numbers – and
when people have a chance to get a look in, come to understand the
nature of our limited missile defence, I don’t think either Russia
or China will find it destabilising with respect to their deterrent
forces. In my conversations both here and in Islamabad, I heard from
both sides about this issue. We did have the conversation. I took
the opportunity of my meeting with the Prime Minister to describe
the President’s strategic framework concept and to thank the Indians
for their understanding of the importance of missile defence. I get
the sense that both nations understand the nature of these weapons
and the importance of constraining their developments so that they
serve as deterrents, and do not move from a strategy of deterrence
to any other kind of strategy. So there is no reason for arms race
to develop based on what the United States is planning with missile
defence. In fact, I think missile defence in the long run will be
seen as stabilising, not destabilising, because it takes something
of the currency away from the value of strategic offensive weapons.
QUESTION (MS. SONIA TRIKHA, INDIAN EXPRESS): My question
is addressed to both of you. Mr. Secretary, you said in Islamabad
yesterday that you believed that the Kashmir issue is central to the
relationship between India and Pakistan. This is not a view shared
by India which has advocated a composite dialogue covering various
political and economic aspects with Pakistan, and not a unifocal approach,
as you have said, that centres on Kashmir alone. Do you think that
the world sees the wisdom of India’s stand in this?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I think the Secretary of State
has more than adequately really read out what he said in Islamabad.
Obviously that is the position that the United States of America has
and has had. As two democracies we could disagree on an event, but
we don’t need necessarily to be disagreeable about the disagreement.
Together, the question of State of Jammu and Kashmir is an example
of the secular tradition of the Indian nation. In that sense we really
cannot move towards reinventing the two-nation theory all over again.
We have conveyed these views to the Secretary of State and we will
continue to do so.
MR. COLIN POWELL: I agree totally.
QUESTION (MARATHA RADDATZ, ABC): Secretary Powell,
there was a strain of Anthrax found on the letter to Senator Dashcle
that is said to be highly refined and pure, suggesting state sponsorship.
Could you comment on that?
Mr. Foreign Minister, could you tell me what your
concerns are about the involving and growing relationship between
the United States and Pakistan; and have you assured the United States
that you will do your part to calm down tensions in Kashmir?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I can answer that very easily.
I am glad you asked that. The relationship that India has and will
develop with the United States of America is not a hyphenated relationship.
We don’t see it through any prism of relation between any other country.
We have a relationship with our western neighbour. We are committed.
This Government has demonstrated commitment on improving our relations
with Pakistan, as perhaps no other Government in the last fifty years
has, despite difficulties and uncertainties. The Prime Minister has
often said, and I repeated that to the Secretary of State, that you
can change friends but you can’t change neighbours. We can certainly
not alter geography. Pakistan with India has to learn to live together
as good neighbours. It will come, be assured. We cannot push the pace
of it. Nobody can push the pace of it. The people of the two countries
realise the essential sanity of what the Prime Minister of India has
repeatedly said that the two people have to learn, have to forget
the the mistakes of the past fifty years, and we have to learn to
live together as we address what are our real enemies of today – poverty,
want - as the two countries endeavour to move together in the 21st
century and meet the challenges of the 21st century.
MR. COLIN POWELL: I really can’t add anything about
the Anthrax story and the Dashcle envelope and what they analysed.
I just have not any more information than you would really have from
Washington. So, I had better stay away from that.
QUESTION (MR. ANURAG TOMAR, ZEE NEWS): Mr. Secretary,
Powell, what is your perception about India-US relations after having
a whole lot of meetings on important issues with senior Indian leaders?
Where does it stand today? Where does it go?
MR. COLIN POWELL: I think our relations are strong.
They have improved so much in recent years. I was saying to my colleagues
earlier that as the Chief of Joint Chiefs of Staff and the most of
years I spent in senior positions in the US military back in the 70s
and through the 80s, we really didn’t have much to do with India regrettably.
That has now all changed. So, these two great democracies can now
work together. Here is a mutual interest. We are trying to remove
whatever irritations exist in our relationship. This improvement was
taking place before the 11th of September, and since the 11th of September,
with the strong support that we received from the Indian Government.
We have the opportunity to accelerate the pace of change. We look
forward to seize on that opportunity. I think it will be in the interest
not only of our two countries but in the interest of South Asia as
well.
QUESTION (ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC NEWS): Mr. Secretary,
can you share any information about what just happened in Jerusalem
with the shooting of a Cabinet Minister; and how this will affect
your efforts to try to persuade both sides to resume a more meaningful
dialogue and persuade the Israelis in particular not to take counter
action?
MR. COLIN POWELL: I just heard about that before
the Press Conference. I don’t know the details as to who has taken
credit for the shooting and what the nature of the incident was. So,
I really don’t have a comment at this time.
QUESTION (ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC NEWS): Are you going
to try to reach out to Mr. Sharon and try to persuade him that no
matter what has happened in this instance that he should not retreat
from …
MR. COLIN POWELL: I think I had better understand
the incidents before I suggest that to Mr. Sharon. But, as you know,
I speak to him on a regular basis, if not daily, every other day or
so. I look forward to doing that the next day or so.
QUESTION (ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC NEWS): Mr. Foreign
Minister, in particular, on the subject of the US Congress now lifting
some remaining sanctions and the expressed proposal by the Administration
to follow it up by taking advantage of the waving, granting more economic
aid and possibly military aid in the future to Pakistan, do you think
that this economic aid to Pakistan is potentially destabilising to
the relationship that India has with the United States? Is this too
much of a reward for Pakistan …
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I understand your question. I
have just responded to a similar question. India’s relationship with
the United States of America is not subject, and is not under the
veto of any other relationship. These are two sovereign countries.
It is very good luck to our western neighbours in Pakistan. It is
my hope that they will utilise the economic aid for the right purpose.
But that again is something that Pakistan has to decide. I can’t really
very well decide for Pakistan, or even ordained to advise Pakistan
how they should do it. We have a certain experience about the military
aid to Pakistan in the past. Now that we see some evidence of Pakistan
moving away from fixed positions of the past and joining the rest
of the international community, we can only hope that the same approach
will govern the utilisation of any aid or assistance that they receive
from the United States of America or from any other country.
MS. NIRUPAMA RAO: Thank you very much. I am afraid
we will have to conclude here.
(Concluded)
"… If this (al-Qaeda's appeal to the US not
to help Hindus against Muslims in Kashmir) is true, then it is a serious
challenge. We will have to combat it together… In fact, Pakistan [is
not benefiting in the present situation, but] is in trouble. India's
diplomacy is going in the right direction"...
-- Atal Behari Vajpayee, Prime Minister, India, October 16, 2001
"…The firing on Monday [October 15] was not initiated
by India… It was one of those actions the army takes on a daily basis
all along the LoC and the International Border… India will be ruthless
in dealing with infiltrations and the kind of methods used by (infiltrators),
whether it is laying mines or suicide encounters like the one outside
the [Jammu and Kashmir Legislative] Assembly building… All of these
are actions of the Pakistani terrorists. One has to be very ruthless
in dealing them…"
-- George Fernandes, Defence Minister, India, October 16, 2001
"… In our battle against
terrorism, we need to take people from all religions and communities
with us. Religion does not permit the killing of innocents. Let us
not forget that many of those killed in the Kashmir Valley were blameless
Muslims. But those who create trouble don’t make a distinction between
terrorism and religion… [The world has only recently recognised the
dangers of terrorism] … But what we have done is not enough — we need
to pull it out by its roots. We are determined to secure the lives
of all our citizens. There will be no compromise in our battle against
terrorism…’’
-- Atal Behari Vajpayee, Prime Minister, India,
October 14, 2001
Transcript of the Press Conference Addressed by
India’s External Affairs and Defence
Minister
Jaswant Singh,
October 11, 2001
Opening remarks:
I am glad to meet you again and to share news and views.
The world after September 11 is a very different world.
I had occasion to discuss this earlier on September 21. Since then,
there have been significant developments.
The international coalition has initiated military action.
Let me, therefore, share the outlines of the military situation in
Afghanistan as on October 11, 2001.
There is now increased focus on the future structure in Afghanistan,
so as to bring lasting peace and stability to this war-torn land,
also to ensure that Afghanistan as both a training ground and a sanctuary
for terrorists, also as the center of narcotics trade, once again
becomes a country, a society that does not radiate extremism and fundamentalism.
India has always supported an independent, broad-based, multi-ethnic
government in Afghanistan. We are working with international community
towards this end.
India has traditionally been a major partner in Afghanistan’s development
effort. We have continued our assistance, though diminished by present
circumstances. I am to announce that the Government has taken a decision
to enhance significantly our humanitarian assistance to Afghanistan.
We would be supplying one million tonnes of wheat and also supplying
tents and blankets and quilts. We also seek to expand medical services
and in particular rehabilitation efforts such as through the ‘Jaipur
Foot’.
In view of the traditional and deep-rooted historical and cultural
linkages between India and Afghanistan, India will also participate
actively in the rehabilitation and reconstruction effort required
once peace and stability have been restored to that country. This
will be through infrastructure development, education, medical and
other projects, all under the aegis of Indian Technical and Economic
Cooperation, which uptill 1979, was our largest single such programme.
India has been in active touch with other countries in this collective
effort to ensure that the current campaign against international terrorism
is taken to its logical conclusion, and with the least possible collateral
consequences on the civil society of Afghanistan.
I had myself recently visited the US, UK, France and Germany. I had
conversations on telephone with leaders from a large number of countries
including Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Canada,
the Secretary General of the Arab League; consultations are slated
with France, Turkey, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. You would also be
interested in knowing that the Russian Deputy Prime Minister Mr. Ilya
Klebanov is visiting New Delhi from the 14th to 16th October. US Secretary
of State Mr. Colin Powell will also in New Delhi in the near future.
In addition, we are looking forward to consultations with Iranian
Deputy Foreign Minister Mohsen Aminzadeh on the 15th October, and
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Trubnikov on 18-19 October during
the meeting of the Indo-Russian Working Group on Afghanistan.
Prime Minister has also been in touch with several world leaders
including from US, UK, Russia and Pakistan.
Even as we watch the unfolding international campaign against terrorism,
there are clear signs of the international community’s determination
to deal conclusively with the scourge. The UN Security Council, for
instance, unanimously adopted Resolution 1373, on 28 September, which
mandates stoppage of funding for terrorists, denying them safe haven
and any form of support. OIC Foreign Ministers met in an emergency
session in Doha on October 10 and adopted a communique condemning
acts of terrorism.
As you all know, India has for nearly two decades faced this problem
of terrorism, sponsored from abroad, and has drawn attention to the
need for strengthened international cooperation to deal with the scourge
which recognises no national boundaries. It was with this in mind
that we are continuing discussions at the UN on a Comprehensive Convention
against International Terrorism.
I am confident that with this renewed international focus and determination,
we would move towards a world where innocent civilians are not targeted,
terrorism is rejected as an instrument of state policy, and there
is no acceptance of any political, religious or any other attempted
justification for such criminal acts.
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SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN – 11 OCTOBER 2001
1. Coalition Strikes
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Kabul, Kandahar, Sindand, Herat, Shibergan, Mazar-I-Sherif
and Kunduz targeted during last 24 hours.
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Taliban air defence, air power considerably degraded.
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Command and control and logistics systems likely
to be in disarray.
2. Northern Alliances
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Fighting reported in Takhar, Bamyan provinces
and South of Mazar-I-Sharif.
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Meeting between Dr. Rabbani and President Rakhmanov
held.
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Two Northern Alliance local field commanders killed
in fighting in Samangan province.
3. Taliban
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Two Taliban helicopters that were impounded by
Pakistan returned to Afghanistan.
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Two close relatives of Mullah Omar and several
Taliban commanders reportedly killed.
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Total Taliban casualty reported so far:
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Killed – 76
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Wounded – 100 (appx)
4. Assesment
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Coalition strikes likely to continue intermittently
round the clock.
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Northern Alliance will, reportedly, continue its
offensives in Takhar, Ghor, Bamyan and towards Mazar-I-Sharif.
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Taliban continues its defence against coalition
forces attacks.
(Question and Answer Session)
QUESTION (MR. VIJAY NAIK, SAKAL PAPERS): There are reports that Mr.
Powell, when he comes here, would like both India and Pakistan to
lower the tempers and continue the dialogue. Is there a possibility
of resumption of dialogue with Pakistan?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I think it was in this very hall perhaps on 21st
of September I had said that India will do nothing to add to the current
disturbed and trying situation - complex situation, complex both for
the people and the Government of Pakistan - in that country. Most
regrettably, barely ten days later followed what we have witnessed
at the State Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir in Srinagar. India never
has done anything to raise tempers. The Prime Minister has said that
this is not India’s way; we will not engage. But, it has to be reciprocated.
There must be a recognition. The Prime Minister has said that this
is not a one-way street.
QUESTION (MR. JAIRAM, INDO-ASIAN NEWS SERVICE): Could you tell us
the broad contours of the Government’s plans for Afghanistan after
the Taliban? You said that a broad-based Government should replace
Taliban.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I think I can share some initial thoughts, and
what the thinking of the world community is in this regard. But, you
will appreciate that I cannot give any definitive answer. I cleared
India’s position and approach in this matter. India stands for a multi-ethnic
Government that represents all sections of Afghan society. We do believe
that this land that has been ravaged by wars for over twenty years
now must return to peace and normalcy. There are a number of attempts
being made. India has expressed its view so as to ensure that Afghanistan
does not all over again become a centre that radiates extremism or
fundamentalism, or remains a centre for narcotics trade. We have also
said that India is of the view that rather than being personality-based,
the future that is sought is much better if it is process-based.
QUESTION (DR. MANAS BANERJEE, DAINIK AGRADOOT): Time and again India
is asking US to ban Jaish-e-Muhammad. Cannot India do it alone independently?
What is the problem for India in banning this organisation?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I must explain this. It is not simply a question
of Jaish-e-Muhammad, there are a number of other organisations. Indian
legal provisions do not actually enable us to ban organisations that
have no physical assets or any other facilities within the country.
In case of such organisations that are within the country which merit
banning, the Government has taken prompt action.
QUESTION (MS. BULA, THE STATESMAN): There were reports from Islamabad
quoting officials that if the Prime Minister cannot visit Pakistan
soon, you should visit as early as possible. Have you received any
such invitation officially? If so, when do you intend to go?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Firstly, I have not received, what you term as,
any official invitation in this regard. I am privy to the conversation
that was held between His Excellency Gen. Pervez Musharraf sahab,
the President of Pakistan and my Prime Minister, in which this idea
did certainly feature. I have no plans of visiting Pakistan. I have
not received any invitation in this regard. Even if I had received
an invitation, it will be very difficult for me – given the current
obligations that I have and no doubt the current preoccupations Pakistan
has – to undertake any such visit.
QUESTION (MR. NARAYANAN, ALL INDIA RADIO): Do you see hot pursuit
into Pak-Occupied Kashmir as a possible option in the coming months,
if the kind of outrages like the Assembly attack continue?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I do not.
QUESTION (MR. ARNAB GOSWAMI, STAR NEWS): In the light of certain
decisions taken by Gen. Musharraf recently, is New Delhi convinced
that the General is serious about, and totally committed to rid his
Government of elements of Taliban?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I prefer not to comment on the seriousness or
otherwise of the intentions of His Excellency the President of Pakistan.
That is really something for Pakistan to decide. I would take at face
value whatever he has asserted. But, I will have to wait and watch
and see the ground result over time of what is taken or announced
as a decision.
QUESTION (MS. SHOBHANA JAIN, UNI VARTA): Would you comment on India’s
reaction on OIC’s resolution on terrorism?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I have referred to the OIC resolution on terrorism.
I am glad that OIC has condemned terrorism. It is an aspect that the
Government of India welcomes. There is, therefore, nothing as far
as I am concerned that is objectionable in the OIC resolution communique
that has recently been adopted at Doha. If you are referring to any
particular aspect of the communique, then I would attempt to answer.
QUESTION (MS. SHOBHANA JAIN, UNI VARTA): The resolution does not
mention Kashmir.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: "Whether I should express disappointment at the
fact that they have not mentioned Jammu and Kashmir", if that is what
you wanted to say, well, I am sure I have to disappoint you.
QUESTION (MR. V. P. SHARMA): You have mentioned that India is ready
to give assistance to Afghan people on humanitarian grounds. Is Government
of India making some arrangements for this? For example, if people
come from Afghanistan as refugees to India, will they be allowed?
If so, where will they be accommodated, and how much money has been
allocated for this?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Yes, we will. We received reports that some Sikhs
and Hindus from Afghanistan fled the current situation and left their
country and were stranded at Wagha without passports or any other
travel documents. We have made special arrangements for our Mission
to send somebody to Wagha and to get them visas and travel papers
onsite. Of course, the Government of India provides them every possible
assistance once they are here.
QUESTION (MS. PADMA RAO): This is a Germany-related question. The
German Foreign Secretary is arriving tomorrow, and so is the German
Chancellor later this month. There has been much talk of a strategic
dialogue beginning in place of what was being termed as a purely business
visit. Could you throw a little light upon this strategic dialogue
and as to whether what you originally intended to talk to the German
Government about has changed over the last couple of months?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: As you know, I have recently been to Berlin when
I had occasion to call on His Excellency the Chancellor. Herr Schroeder
was due to visit Delhi, I believe, on 29th of October. I am due to
meet the equivalent of the Foreign Secretary as well because that
is a part of the routine conversation between our two Ministries.
This aspect of upgrading the current relationship between India and
Germany into a strategic dialogue did come up during my recent visit
to Germany. We will be moving in that direction. Until we have achieved
it, it will be premature for me to give any outlines or even contents
of such a dialogue. But, the strategic dialogue, as the name itself
suggests, is strategic in content and purpose.
QUESTION (SATINDRA BINDRA, CNN): You have just ruled out hot pursuit.
The UNI has carried some comments made by Indian Prime Minister. He
says he does not rule out the military option at this time. Mr. Minister,
don’t you think these two statements appear contrary to each other?
Your comments please.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I do not know which comment of the Prime Minister
you are referring to or when he said this to UNI.
QUESTION (SATINDRA BINDRA, CNN): Can I read it out? He said, "We
are discussing the matter and a military operation on this might be
launched after considering all the options." This report is datelined
Varanasi. The lead of the report goes, "Prime Minister Atal Bihari
Vajpayee today did not rule out military action to flush out terrorists
from Jammu and Kashmir".
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: A military option to flush out terrorists from
within the State of Jammu and Kashmir is, of course, not ruled out.
The question does not relate to hot pursuit.
QUESTION (MR. AJAY KUMAR, AAJ TAK): Gen. Musharraf said to Prime
Minister Vajpayee that talks between the two countries should continue.
Before that he said that what is happening in Kashmir is a freedom
struggle. In view of this, do you think there is a common ground between
India and Pakistan at all?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: There are two parts to your question. One is
that the talks should start again. Hon. Prime Minister has reminded
the General Sahab that the series of talks were always started by
India whether it was in Lahore on the Bus or at Agra. It is not necessary
to remind the General Sahab of the difficulties that came up in that
process, of Kargill happening after Lahore and Agra happening after
Kandahar, and the killings, etc. The Prime minister said that our
wish was that we meet in Agra so that the train of talks kept moving.
But, our neighbours’ attitude is such that the train has stopped.
To move it again it is necessary that the weapon of terrorism which
they are wielding is given up. India has never feared talks. But,
as long as the atmosphere is not created for talks, how can we talk?
QUESTION (MR. SATISH JACOB, BBC): I am sure you know that Indian
journalists have been denied visas to go to Pakistan. I consider that
as a deprivation of our rights as journalists. Don’t you think that
you should, in your capacity as the Minister of External Affairs of
India, take up with the Government of Pakistan that journalists from
India should be allowed access to cover what is going on in Afghanistan?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Certainly. I cannot agree more with you in that
regard. I have already advised our Mission to initiate a request in
that regard. As you know, India has never stepped in the way of journalists,
or commentators, or whosoever, from Pakistan to come to India. We
do believe that presently when such momentous developments are taking
place in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Indian journalists be denied access
to the development is – well, I do not wish to comment on the philosophy
of freedom of press, etc., that really is something for Pakistan to
address – certainly a deprivation. We have already taken it up. Now
that you asked me to do so - it is not a question, it is really a
demand on me - I will certainly pursue it.
QUESTION (MR. RANJIT KUMAR, NAVBHARAT TIMES): You said in your statement
that Pakistan has returned two helicopters to Taliban. Does this mean
that Pakistan has not given military assistance to Taliban and that
Pakistan has not done anything to go against the US lead coalition
against Taliban?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: How do I refer to it? In the present circumstances,
how proper would it be for me to comment on this? It may be taken
as a complaint against our friends. But, they are military helicopters.
They left Afghanistan because, as I said, Taliban’s air assets - aerodromes,
radars, etc., - were being attacked. They thought that they would
leave Afghanistan and go to the friendly neighbour Pakistan and so,
they have gone there and got arrested. They should have stayed there,
but they are returned now. If they were military helicopters before,
I do not think they would be used for peaceful purposes now.
QUESTION (MR. ANURAG TOMAR, ZEE NEWS): During the forthcoming visit
of Mr. Powell to Pakistan and India, Kashmir is likely to figure in
the talks. From Shimla to Agra, India has been insisting that Kashmir
is a bilateral issue. What is your reaction to this?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: My reaction is quite clear. Pakistan has every
right to talk to whosoever it wants to talk to. How can I tell them
to talk with somebody on some issue or not to talk with somebody on
some issue? As far as India is concerned, our view has always been
clear that Jammu and Kashmir is not an international issue; Jammu
and Kashmir is a bilateral issue. And, this has been an issue because
there has been repeated interference of our neighbours in it. So,
the dialogue that is to take place will be a bilateral dialogue. If
someone else talks with us about the international situation as to
what is there in Jammu and Kashmir, as to what is happening there,
we have no fear of talking on any issue. We will once again get an
opportunity to repeat as to what are the aspects of that issue and
what are the realities of that issue. There is no objection to this.
QUESTION (MR. RAJDEEP SARDESAI, STAR NEWS): I have one question and
one petition to you.
Given what you said is the situation on the ground in terms of Talibans’
air defences being destroyed and Commanders having been killed, could
you wear your Defence Minister’s hat and tell us how soon you believe
this conflict in terms of air strikes would end? Do you believe that
Taliban would, within a fortnight, find it very difficult to survive?
My petition is a reiteration of the point Mr. Jacob made just now.
Could you possibly at your level take up the matter of journalists
getting access to Pakistan? Freedom of information between the two
countries is a part of the SAARC Charter. It has to be done at your
level or at the level of the Prime Minister. It cannot be done at
our level. We request you to take that point further.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I will answer both your question and petition.
It is very unusual and, if I might say so, it is a somewhat flattering
experience for me in a full-fledged press conference rather than to
be questioned or grilled to be petitioned.
I agree with you. Besides the fact that it is a part of the SAARC
charter, developments in the region warrant that Indian journalists
not be prevented from going there and cover the events. I mentioned
to you that we have advised our Mission to take it up. Currently,
Pakistan goes through a certain situation, as you know. Access to
some television channels has also now been denied. I know for a fact
that my Mission can no longer access, the channels from India that
it was earlier accessing. This is an action not taken directly against
the Mission but against the cable network operators of Pakistan. It
is well within Pakistan’s sovereign right to take whatever action
it wishes to against its own cable network operators. But it has a
consequence on my Mission. I am taking steps to correct that situation
as best as I can. So far as urging yet again the Government of Pakistan
to reconsider this total ban on journalists from India to visit Pakistan
and Afghanistan, I assure you I will do so latest by tomorrow and
I will do my best in this regard.
QUESTION (MR. RAJDEEP SARDESAI, STAR NEWS): One word from you to
Mr. Sattar is enough.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: It is flattering to hear that one word would
suffice. But, I will try.
Secondly, you want from me, as the Defence Minister of the country,
my assessment of the evolution of the military situation in Afghanistan.
My best guide in this regard is the assessment of both my counterpart
and friend Secretary of State for Defence Rumsfeld as also the pronouncements
made by President Bush himself. President bush has said that this
is going to be long drawn out. So has Secretary of State for Defence
Rumsfeld. Long drawn out has two dimensions. In a global sense, of
course, it is long drawn out. It will be simplistic to think that
it is a short-term affair. Long drawn out in the context of action
against Taliban and its forces in Afghanistan has got to be seen in
time dimension as it is global. It is our assessment that there could
possibly be a lull in the air action tomorrow, being Jumma, but it
would resume the day after. In fact, it would be now both night and
day attacks. If you examine the military situation, uptill now the
Taliban military assets that have been neutralised are largely the
air power components – airfields, radars, some of their flying ability,
communications and command. They still do have other military assets.
The air strikes uptill now have been not so much on the forward positions
of the Taliban forces, but much more on the reserve and rear positions.
I can say with a fair degree of certainty that we will see more air
action by day and night, including action against the remaining military
assets of Taliban forces also, of further degradation of the communication
links between the Taliban and its forces including the supply routes.
Thereafter will come a little phase of pounding the forward positions
of the Taliban forces, which I believe will be followed by renewed
military action by the Northern Alliance. I do not see it in the short-term.
I cannot speculate or give you a timeframe within which all this activity
will take place.
QUESTION (MR. RAJIV SHARMA, THE TRIBUNE): You talked of military
degradation of Taliban. What about the terrorist camps? American strikes
so far have not covered places like Khost which are on the border
with Pakistan. Do you think America’s Operation Enduring Freedom will
really mean enduring freedom in Kashmir for India when these terrorist
camps are not eliminated?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: We are a free country. What do you mean by ‘freedom
for India’?
QUESTION (MR. RAJIV SHARMA, THE TRIBUNE): Do you think that Operation
Enduring Freedom would be logical if terrorist training camps in Afghanistan
and places like Khost and others which are on the border with Pakistan
are not destroyed?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I think these terrorist training camps will be
neutralised. Please recognise one very important aspect. Neutralisation
of Afghanistan as a centre of training, of promoting, thereafter exporting
terrorists and terrorist-related ideas, neutralisation of Afghanistan
as a terrorist base, is of direct benefit to India’s national interests
because most of the training camps that were earlier located nearer
Jammu and Kashmir were moved into Afghanistan. Their neutralisation
converting Afghanistan from what it is today to a country that rejoins
the international community is a direct benefit to Indian national
interest.
QUESTION (MR. VAKIL KASHUR GAZETTE) : Why is India shying away from
hot pursuit which is in the interest of Kashmir? Thousands of Talibans
are fighting against our forces there.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: All factors are taken into account when determining
the policy. All the factors that go into determining the policy, it
will be difficult for me to detail in a press conference.
QUESTION (THE NEW INDIAN EXPRESS): I would like to know whether any
assurance was given by US President Bush to our Prime Minister Vajpayee
that there would be a ban on militant organisation Jaish-e-Muhammad.
If so, can we expect such a ban during the visit of Mr. Colin Powell?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: You would appreciate that what transpires in
a conversation between two Heads of Government is confidential. I
am not free to divulge what was discussed or what was left out from
discussion. As to what will be said, or discussed, or announced by
Secretary of State Colin Powell when he comes here, why don’t you
wait until he is here?
QUESTION (MR. ROHIT CNN): When an attack happened on the United States,
US President went out and said that he would smoke terrorists out
from wherever they are hiding. When it comes to India’s reaction,
for a country which has been facing more than ten years of terrorism,
India seems to have a subdued reaction over the years.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Well, India reacts as India reacts. So far as
the first of October attacks against the State Assembly of Kashmir
is concerned, I think globally there was a reaction that it is an
outrageous act. I do not think there was anything muted or subdued
in India’s reaction. I have said that for 20 years India has been
fighting its battle against terrorism alone. We intend to continue
and fight this battle until we have resolved this issue. It is very
good that such large parts of the international community now recognise
the menace of international terrorism. As I have said earlier, it
is not as if India has joined the battle of the United States of America.
Post-September 11, it is the United States of America that has joined
India’s battle. It is a battle against terrorism. That is a resolve
on the part of the United States of America to fight it until it is
rooted out. I do not think one need make statements on every policy
intent that we want to pursue.
QUESTION (MR. MUKESH KUMAR SINGH, AAJ KI BAAT): Right from the beginning
India has welcomed military action by America. Is there a chance of
Indian forces taking active part in the ongoing military operations?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: No. India is extending the cooperation it has
to extend. Our saying that in this fight against terrorism we stand
by the international community in itself is a big step in cooperation.
Neither there is a need for Indian forces to go there, nor there is
any such plan.
QUESTION: You said that there will be a lull tomorrow.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I did not say there ‘will’ be.
QUESTION: Okay. At the same time you also do not foresee the battle
ending in the near future.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Yes, I did say that it is not likely to end in
the near future.
QUESTION: The months of Ramzan are not very far away, they will approach
in a couple of weeks. How do you see this battle during Ramzan?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am sure these facts have been taken into account
by the planners. I cannot speculate as to how it will be carried.
I believe that it is not a short-term battle. I do believe that it
is likely to continue for some time.
QUESTION (AAPKA TV): As the strikes continue in Afghanistan, it is
expected that this war is going to prolong. Is it going to affect
Indian foreign policy, or our diplomatic relations, with other countries
in the long run?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I have just cited to you as to how many countries
have been in consultation with India; how many consultations I have
engaged in; the number of visits that are taking place. In the sense
that Tuesday, September 11, is a defining moment in world’s experience
and history, it affects everybody and not just India. India addresses
the issues of international relations as they evolve and develop.
QUESTION (MS. VINEETA DEEPAK, ASSOCIATED PRESS TELEVISION): Is India
concerned at the number of civilian casualties? This is a concern
expressed by a whole lot of other countries as well.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Yes, we are. We are certainly concerned. That
is why I have expressed that there should be the least possible collateral
damage to the civil society. There is another concern that we had
voiced earlier and I must voice it again on India’s behalf. This is
a fight against terrorism. This in no way or in no sense can be interpreted
as any kind of conflict or fight against Islam. Islam itself is against
terrorism. Terrorism, to our mind, is anti-Islamic. Practice in the
name of Islam distorts the very face of it. Islam is the voice of
God. I say it with conviction of Allah, the all-compassionate and
the all-merciful. This fight against terrorism is a fight of the whole
civilised world against an evil, against an abomination, which is
killing. How can terrorism be pursued in the name of Islam or in the
sight of Allah? So, there is no equation whatsoever in this regard.
QUESTION (MS. RENU, THE AFTERNOON): My first question relates to
the OIC Conference of yesterday. The Minister made it very clear to
the United States that they would not tolerate any further attacks
on Arab Governments after the bombing of Afghanistan. Can you give
your reaction to this?
Secondly, what is your answer to the repeated pleas of Jammu and
Kashmir Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah to enter Pak-Occupied Kashmir
and destroy the terrorist bases and training camps there?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: So far as the second part is concerned, that
has been covered adequately enough. Repeatedly the Prime Minister
did say and said it quite clearly that India will not continue to
tolerate such incidents.
Insofar as the OIC is concerned, I have the text here with me. The
relevant paragraph of the Communique says, "The Conference stressed
its rejection of any linkage between terrorism and Islamic and Arab
people’s rights. It does not include, as somebody has said, Jammu
and Kashmir. It says ‘Arab people’s rights’. Since I do not know from
where you have got this about attacking Arab countries, who can advocate
attacks against Arab countries?
QUESTION: America had written to the United Nations Security Council
saying that they reserve the right to attack any other country to
fight against terrorism. How do you view this aspect?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am aware of the letter that the United States
has addressed to the Secretary-General of the United Nations. What
United States has invoked is the right of self-protection. Inherent
in the right of self-protection is the obligation of the State to
take such steps, as it finds necessary to protect itself. But, we
are clear in our minds that at the present moment neither the situation
nor the events of September 11 warrant any action against any other
state or country. So far as the aims and purposes of the United Nations
Security Council Committee that has been appointed pursuant to the
Resolution SCR 1373, the aims and purposes of the Committee are to
monitor the implementation of this Resolution, to give guidance to
member-states to analyse the response that is given, identify possible
problem areas, and to examine the scope of assistance that could be
provided to member-states. All these provisions are both UNSC-related
as also related under Chapter 51 of the United Nations Charter itself.
QUESTION (MS. INDRANI BAGCHI ECONOMIC TIMES): Since you are on the
subject of the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373, could
you elaborate a little on how the Resolution would help the international
coalition against terrorism?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I just pointed out, for example, that there is
a Committee that has been appointed under this Resolution. This Committee
is under the Chairmanship of the Permanent Representative of Great
Britain. I have pointed out that the Committee has defined its aims
and purposes as monitoring the implementation of 1373 which mandates
the closing of bank accounts, seizure of bank balances, prohibiting
transfer of weapons, etc., along with giving guidance to member-states.
I have just listed them out. I do not want to take time just pointing
them out again. I think this is very comprehensive. It just addresses
the totality of terrorism globally. It does not focus on any one particular
incident of terrorism.
QUESTION: What is the mission of Mr. Colin Powell? He is coming here
sometime next week. What do you think he is going to talk to you,
or Pakistan or China? He is going to come on a long visit.
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Let me deal with China first. He is on his way
to the APEC meeting at Shanghai. He is not making a bilateral visit
to People’s Republic of China. So far as the purpose of the Secretary
of State’s visit, as you know I very recently met with him on the
2nd of October. When he is here very shortly, we will take further
the discussion that we had in Washington. We will also discuss India-US
cooperation in combating the global terrorist networks wherever they
exist. This counter-terrorism cooperation between India and the United
States of America predates the unfortunate and tragic events of September
11, which both sides recognise to be a key component of the broad,
expanding bilateral agenda. There is a renewed sense of urgency and
purpose behind this endeavour now. We will also, I am sure, discuss
the current operation and pursuit of the goals of the first phase
of the campaign by United States and the coalitions, which is to bring
to justice perpetrators of the attack on the United States, the network
that supports them, and also the people that it harbours. These and
other aspects will be discussed.
QUESTION (JAIN TV): This fight against Taliban is supposed to be
only the first phase of the war against terrorism. When do you think
the second phase will start? Secondly, Mr. Sattar has said that Pakistan
wants a moderate Taliban leadership to takeover in Afghanistan. What
is India’s stand on that?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I would much rather not comment on what my distinguished
Foreign Minister of Pakistan has said. Moderate Taliban to my mind
is an oxymoron. So far as the first part, I must correct your impression
that this is a fight against Taliban. I think it has repeatedly been
made clear that the target is the Al Qaeda network of which one of
the principal promoters is, of course, Osama bin Laden, and one of
the consequences is Taliban. The Al Qaeda network, it will be interesting
to know for you, has a number of terrorist organisations that are
operating in Jammu and Kashmir and in India. So, when Al Qaeda is
targeted, these terrorist organisations are all targeted. Amongst
them is Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Jaish-e-Muhammad,
Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and also there is one organisation that operates
in Bangladesh called Harkat-ul-Jehad of Islam. These are organisations
that are part of the Al Qaeda network that have already been announced.
So, when it is pointed out as to of what benefit the fight against
Al Qaeda is to India, please go through the organisations that have
been spawned by the Al Qaeda and that are operating in India. There
is a direct benefit because these were also the organisations which
we were targeting and combating alone which now the international
coalition against terrorism will also be targeting.
QUESTION: Do you feel any threat from Bangladesh?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: No, I don’t.
QUESTION: Which kind of military or logistic help you can provide
to the Americans in the next phase of the war that, as you said, is
going to be long?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Long in the sense that fight against global terrorism
cannot be conceived in a short timeframe. So far as logistics and
other support is concerned, United States of America has not asked
us for anything other than what was routinely provided. It was really
not even connected with the present operation. Flight of aircraft
from different countries, military and other aircraft, transiting
through India is a routine operation. This will be in accordance with
the guidelines that have already been decided by the Cabinet Committee
on Security. These do not include grant of any permanent bases. So,
there is no scope for any such apprehension that people have earlier
cited that United States of America is going to acquire bases. They
have neither sought nor were given any military bases in India by
far. But, I will await developments in this regard and we will address
every request that comes on its merits.
QUESTION (MR. NAVEEN KAPOOR, ANI): Does India envisage a role for
itself in the post-war reconstruction of Afghanistan?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I have answered that. Let me cite to you that
India’s role in Afghanistan does not start now. It predates the arrival
of Islam in Afghanistan. Bamiyan Buddhas were of 4th century BC.
QUESTION (MR. RAJESH MOHAPATRA, ASSOCIATED PRESS): The other day
after the Cabinet Committee on Security met, you said that India was
soon going to ask Pakistan to hand over Jaish-e-Muhammad Chief Maulana
Masood Azhar. When is your ‘soon’ going to be? Are you waiting for
the US to ban the organistation? Secondly, if Pakistan does not oblige,
the way Taliban did with the US, what is going to be your response?
SHRI JASWANT SINGH: What my response would be, if Pakistan does not
do x or y or z, you scarcely expect me to share with you here. As
for what my soon is, please leave it to the Ministry of External Affairs
to determine that soon.
If there are no questions, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much
for this courtesy. As I had told you last time, whenever I believe
that there is need now for us to sit together, I will periodically
endeavour to meet you and exchange views with you in this regard.
Thank you.
Text in italics is translated from Hindi.
Summary of Remarks made by EAM in response to
a question from NDTV, after conclusion of his Press Conference
(In response to a question from Rajdeep Sardesai of NDTV regarding
the nature of steps to be taken for a settlement of the Afghan issue,
EAM said the following)
- India favours a process-based rather than an individual or person-based
approach in regard to the future of Afghanistan.
- What is currently being examined is such a process-based approach.
- The first step would involve a 120 member Council which would
have equal representation from the Northern Alliance and the Pashtuns.
- This Council would elect an interim caretaker body.
- Thereafter a Loya Jirga would be called. This would be an Assembly
of 51 persons, one thirds of which would be nominated and two thirds
elected by the people of Afghanistan. This Loya Jirga would sit
together and decide on the next Government. This was a complex process
and was based on how such matters had been decided for centuries.
- India had always said that whatever solution emerges, it should
be based on the wishes of Afghan people and it should provide lasting
peace and stability for Afghanistan. India had absolutely no territorial
ambitions regarding Afghanistan and our links with Afghanistan predate
the advent of Islam.
Source: http://www.meadev.nic.in/news/or-eam-11oct.htm
"… We are discussing the matter
[military action to flush out terrorists in Kashmir] and an operation
on this effect might be launched after considering all options… Those
who are trying to make an issue out of it [US’ war on terrorism being
termed as particularly targeting Muslims] were only helping the cause
of terrorism and they will have to suffer later…"
-- Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Prime Minister, India,
October 11, 2001
Press Release
Ministry of External Affairs, New Delhi
October 8, 2001
LAUNCH OF U.S. MILITARY STRIKES IN AFGHANISTAN
The anticipated military strike against Al Qaeda terrorist training
camps and military installations of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan
was, as you are aware, launched last night. These operations are part
of a broader campaign against the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks
in the United States on 11th September and their supporters. President
Bush had telephoned Prime Minister Vajpayee on Sunday, well before
the launch of the air strikes and informed him of essential details
in this regard.
As expected, the targeting has been selective,
minimising the impact of the operation on the civil population. We
are glad that humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan
is integral to the operations.
India has long had traditionally warm and friendly ties with the
people of Afghanistan. Above all, that country and its people deserve
a democratic, peaceful, progressive and prosperous future. This is
not possible unless peace returns early and a government representative
of all elements of the Afghan society replaces the Taliban.
Promotion of terrorism is what has brought Afghanistan to this pass.
That is why we welcome President Bush's statement of 7th October reiterating
that the current focus on Afghanistan is part of a broader battle
against terrorism. India's position on the global character of terrorism
and the need for a concerted global action against terrorism everywhere
is known well enough.
New Delhi
October 8, 2001
Source: http://www.meadev.nic.in/news/official/20011008/official.htm
Joint press conference addressed by
Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and
British Minister Tony Blair,
October 6, 2001 - New Delhi
Mr. Prime Minister,
I welcome you warmly to India. You are on a whirlwind
tour, covering three countries in two days. With this severe pressure
on your time, I am very happy we have been able to prevail upon you
to visit us, even though for a very short time.
Even in this brief period, we have had a meaningful and
fruitful exchange of views. Before your visit, we spoke twice on the
telephone- once after the terrorist attacks of September 11 in USA and
again after our own tragedy in Srinagar on October 1. We continued on
the same theme today- of democracy under attack from terrorism. The
terrorist bomb in Srinagar hit at the symbol of the state’s democratic
polity.
You, Mr. Prime Minister, have played an active role in
building and strengthening the global coalition against terrorism. You
have rightly warned against equating terrorism with Islam. In your recent
speeches, you have underlined the importance of political will for firm
action against every organization and every country which funds, arms,
trains or sponsors terrorism.
For over two decades now, India has waged a virtually
lone struggle against terrorism. We believe that in this globalized
world, distance and time do not provide insulation from the reach of
terrorism. The hijack of an aircraft from Kathmandu to Kandahar may
have linkages with four other aircraft creating havoc in USA nearly
two years later. This is precisely why terrorism has to be dealt with
globally. Condoning a terrorist act in one place may lay the foundation
for a far more virulent act elsewhere.
We discussed the sinister agenda behind the Srinagar
bomb blast. Even while extending our whole-hearted support to the pursuit
of the guilty terrorists of September 11, we should not let countries
pursue their own terrorist agenda under cover of this action. India
will remain vigilant against such threats and will counter them decisively.
We spoke today about the tragedy of Afghanistan, which
is caught in a war not of its making. India has traditional ties with
that country. What Afghanistan needs is a broad-based government, representative
of all ethnic groups, and which does not export of insurgency and extremism
as its core ideology.
Mr. Prime Minister, we have been expecting you and Mrs.
Blair in India on an official bilateral visit. I want to tell you that
this brief visit of a few hours does not free you from that obligation.
Our bilateral relations are vibrant, and there are a number of areas
in which we can further strengthen our cooperation. We hope to have
you here on a full-fledged visit in the near future, so that we can
focus on these matters. Meanwhile, we should keep in close touch to
continue our consultations on the most crucial agenda items of the democratic
world today.
Opening remarks by Prime Minister Tony Blair.
"Thank you very much Mr. Prime Minister. Can I begin
by thanking you for welcoming me here today. You mentioned rightly that
this visit is only of a few hours duration. I remain under obligation
to come back for a more extended visit. It is an obligation I am happy
to accept today and that we are trying to arrange a date in the near
future so that a more extended visit can take place later. I would also
like to thank you Sir and to thank your government for the very strong
stand that you took right from the very outset as part of the growing
and strengthening coalition against terrorism in all its forms and if
I can repeat it Sir what I said in the British Parliament a couple of
days ago, we extend our deepest sympathy to the families of those who
are victims of the terrorist outrage in Srinagar. Such outrages have
no place in any civilised society and those that perpetrate them should
be brought to justice. Prime Minister, can I also say that I agree how
hard you were against this and what you said about the need for Afghanistan
to have a stable government that represents a broad base of all ethnic
groupings within that country. I think we can see very clearly that
it is essential that we take action to bring to account those who perpetrated
the events of the 11th of September and that we do so in the way that
it achieves two very clear objectives:
First that they are brought to justice and those terrorist
camps and that terrorist network is shut down.
Secondly that we do it in a way that is proportionate
and targeted and makes full allowance for the humanitarian consequences
of the situation in Afghanistan and that humanitarian situation did
not begin after the 11th of September, even before that there were very
large numbers of refugees a very serious situation and of course the
people of Afghanistan are themselves victims of the Taliban regime but
I think it is a duty upon us which we as Britain will accept very clearly
to make proper humanitarian positions also for people in that region.
So Sir can I thank you once again for welcoming me here today and can
I repeat something you said just a moment ago that relations between
Britain and India are vibrant and strong we see them strengthening still
further. We value enormously our relationship with yourself, the Indian
Government and with the Indian people and I have no doubt at all that
on the basis of this very brief visit that on my returning at a later
time for a more extended visit to your country that relations can be
strengthened still further. Thank you Sir".
In response to questions, the two Premiers made the following
points:
Q. Andrew Mark from BBC: Could I ask the British Prime
Minister he’s talked about the trap around the Taliban regime now that’s
in place what hopes does he have that the regime will stop to crumble
and collapse from inside without a very major military action?
BLAIR: Of course I do not want to comment on the possible
nature of any such military action but the truth is that we simply do
not know at the present time exactly what will happen and the consequences
of it on the speed with which the Taliban regime will face the consequences
of the actions that they’ve taken. What we do know is that now as we
speak today many days after the 11th of September, the Taliban regime
has totally failed to consider or indeed respond in any proper way to
the ultimatum that was given very clearly by President Bush to them
that they either yield up Bin Laden and his associates and close down
those terrorist camps or they become the enemy themselves because they
are harbouring the people who carried out the 11th of September outrage.
We prepared people for this action taking time because we must continue
until the objectives are met. I don’t think it will be sensible to try
and put some time span on it with the present time. But I do repeat
to you our complete determination to make sure that it is successful
because we cannot allow these people to carry on doing what they have
done on the 11th of September and so we will continue the action until
its effective, until it achieves the objectives that we have set out.
Q. Mohan Narayan from PTI: For Mr. Blair - Pakistan is
seen in this region as a focal point of terrorism. Don’t you see any
inherent contradiction in seeking a role for it in the international
coalition? Do you think Pakistan can deliver given its record?
BLAIR: It is important to realise that our focus is upon
dealing with the situation in Afghanistan and closing down Bin Laden’s
camps and his terrorist networks but we made it absolutely clear as
indeed I said in the British Parliament that our attitude is to terrorism
of all kinds. I hope very much that we can work to ensure that there
is stability in this region but it has to be based on a proper respect
for the rule of law and civilised values.
Q. John Smith from the Press Association: May I ask the
British Prime Minister what role you see specifically for India in the
International coalition that you have spoken of building up in the last
few days in terms of a humanitarian, diplomatic and military response
to the events of the 11th of September?
BLAIR: India is immensely important power in the world
its support and the speed of the response of the government was hugely
important both in its own terms and as a symbol of the International
community’s outrage at the 11th of September and its determination to
act. The Indian government has made it clear what help it can offer
we’ve been immensely grateful for that and I think it is worth just
pointing out that as far as India is concerned obviously one of the
first countries of the world that people looked to for a strong response
was India. The fact that it was forthcoming has evoked gratitude right
round the world because India coming with that very strong position
right on the outset was an enormous benefit and help to us and I know
that it was hugely appreciated in the USA.
Q. Arnab Goswami from Star News: I wanted to ask Prime
Minister Vajpayee whether he is concerned that the approach to tackling
this problem as of now seems to be that of taking Afghanistan, the Taliban
issue and tracking down the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks of
September 11th in isolation at the moment. Whether you are concerned
and whether the government of India is concerned?
VAJPAYEE: No I am not in favour of taking this issue
in isolation. We are fighting a global war and there has to be a global
solution.
-- Farooq Abdullah, Chief Minister, Jammu and Kashmir,
October 3, 2001
Ladies and Gentlemen, I will make a short statement,
and then the Minister, and then we will be happy to take a few questions.
I have been delighted to welcome the Minister here today
and after this he will be going on for a meeting with our Prime Minister.
I began by expressing on my own behalf and that of the
Government of the United Kingdom, our outrage and horror at the terrorist
atrocity which took place in Srinagar on 1 October. An attack right
again at the heart of a democratic government, in this case at the centre
of the operation of democracy, a Democratic Assembly. And I also reflected
on the fact that India has lost at least 38 of its citizens in the atrocities
on 11 September. I believe it is true to say, Minister, of the foreign
nationals who were killed, India lost more than any other country in
the world and I believe that the final figure of deaths of Indian citizens
is going to be at around 250 more than British citizens, and we grieve
for everyone of the souls of people who have lost their lives in those
atrocities and others, whatever their citizenship, but the fact that
India continues to suffer so grievously at home from terrorism and that
Indian citizens suffered on 11 September illustrates that when it comes
to the fight against terrorism, this really is one world and we have
to be united in that fight.
I have had a long association with India. When I was
the Home Minister I was involved in a lot of discussions with the Foreign
Minister’s colleague, Mr. Advani, Home Minister in India, and I prescribed
three Kashmiri terrorist organisations, as well as two Sikh separatist
organisations all working within India or across the border. And there
was some criticism of that. I think that people now have a better understanding
of why we have to fight terrorism by every legitimate means at our disposal
and that includes sadly, in some cases, the use of force.